I like drawing them, what’s that about? I’m not so sure if i like watching them.  

I’m giving a talk on my erotic drawings and realise, I don’t think I’ve shown that many of them.

I do tend to get a bit shy. I think erotic drawings were what I first ever drew. (Remember that scene in Dotty Gets Spanked by Todd Haynes) The naughty little boy and his naughty pictures – I did that too. That is a great film.

No sex scenes just secret erotic drawings.

Gary: I find a lot of jokes are mean, like, as if they are urging people to bully.

Hugh: Do you think British humour is all about the piss take?

Gary: Yes, and the dick fiddle.

Hugh: The what!

Gary: An uncontrollable urge to dominate the situation.

Hugh pauses, Gary stares, suddenly transfixed by his own thinking

Gary contd: Often seated in the frustrations of the penis.

Hugh: Oh, Jesus!

Hugh, suddenly stops. Thinks. Looks at Gary.

Hugh: I think you have a point.